The post I've read about bikinis being made for toddlers got me started.

I hate little kids. It seems that every time I go into a restaurant, they sit me next to some mom with a little kid. And sure enough, the little kid has gotta start screaming! If they are going to have smoking and non smoking parts of the restaurants, I'd pay to have a kid and kid free section of a restaurant. Then these little angels can be found at the malls. Sometimes I think their mothers wait till they are in the middle of a busy mall to beat the tar out of their little kids, or maybe it's the little kids who save all their frustration and then throw major tantrums at the mall. I wonder, while listening to these God-forsaken scream fests, what it would take to get an adult to start screaming the way those kids scream.

The worst part is that I seem to be a magnet for ALL the screaming little kids. They are at the restaurants, they are at the malls, they are right behind me when I go to buy something at Wal-Mart, their at the mueseums, screaming little kids live next to me. My last girlfriend had a roomate who had a screaming little kid. Every single morning, you could tell it was 7 a.m., because the little kid would start screaming NO NO NO NO NO NO, took me forever to get back to sleep. I bet when I'm on my deathbed, there will be some screaming little kid in the bed next to mine at the hospital and it'll be the last sound I ever hear.

I was once at a bookstore, minding my own business and reading a magazine, I was sitting on a small stool and guess what? Some lady had one of those carriages that can hold two of those little bologna loaves and parked it right behind me. Sure enough, some ladies little bundle of joy started screaming, about three feet right behind my head. After one really high pitched scream, I finally had enough and spun my head around to see what that little noisemaker looked like. I have no idea what my facial expression was, but that damn little kid stopped screaming instantly and had this look of abject terror on his or her little face. I glared for a few more seconds to let the little rug rat know to take his screaming someplace else and got back to reading my magazine.

I really wouldn't want any harm to behall these pint size noisemakers, and I know, deep within my heart of hearts that one day they'll ALL be paying for my Social Security, but man, it'd be so nice if I could have a day out and not have to listen to screaming little kids.

Dammit.

I can take it that you're single :D

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
The worst part is that I seem to be a magnet for ALL the screaming little kids. They are at the restaurants, they are at the malls, they are right behind me when I go to buy something at Wal-Mart, their at the mueseums, screaming little kids live next to me. My last girlfriend had a roomate who had a screaming little kid. Every single morning, you could tell it was 7 a.m., because the little kid would start screaming NO NO NO NO NO NO, took me forever to get back to sleep. I bet when I'm on my deathbed, there will be some screaming little kid in the bed next to mine at the hospital and it'll be the last sound I ever hear. I think God's telling you to have kids :)

Little kids :D are the cutest

it's not the kids, it's the parents. i and the wife, will take our children out when they start to raise hell like that. we know it is irritating to everyone else around, and it is the polite thing to do.
but you seem to just hate kids in general so this is for you.

Kids are a major pain in the butt for those of us without them.

Originally posted by es347fan
Kids are a major pain in the butt for those of us without them.

You are them.

Originally posted by ivan
it's not the kids, it's the parents. i and the wife, will take our children out when they start to raise hell like that. we know it is irritating to everyone else around, and it is the polite thing to do.
but you seem to just hate kids in general so this is for you.

I definitely agree with you Ivan. Parents do not have enough time to teach their children manners, working 24/7, not giving their children the spanking they deserve.

I think the OP is a jerk...no reason to hate someone that hasn't done anything wrong...

DOUCHEBAG Syndrome ALERT!!

Originally posted by DracRomin
I definitely agree with you Ivan. Parents do not have enough time to teach their children manners, working 24/7, not giving their children the spanking they deserve.

most kids now don't spend enough time with adults to get asn idea of how to act. they spend too much time with other kids in day care, or in front of a tv. parents find little time to TALK to their kids. but kids are kids, and they will act up. you don't have to spank them all the time just for the most serious offences.
hmmmm............ i'd say just lookin up front and seein me in the front seat would snap some kids to attention.

I agree Ivan, that kids do indeed spend too much time without adult supervision, being entertained by the tv. This has gotten much worse in the past 20 years. Kids learn from the cartoon network and nickelodeon now.
As much as I hate for kids to sit and rot in front of a tv, there are many times at my age that I feel worn out and sit ours in front of the boob tube for a bit just to get a quiet break. It's not so much that I don't want to be around them, it's more that I guess we were not thinking when we decided to have another at 38. We are now 45 and the sometimes the relentless screeching of an 8 year old to buy him the newest game on the market, can get a bit overbearing, so the tv becomes a quick fix to a really uncomfortable situation.
Like I said though, it's not very often that this happens, but I can see why it does in families where both the parents work long hours and are in serious need of quiet time when they finally get home.
As for the original poster of this thread, I think he needs to look back and remember when he was a child. Was he one of those kids that (strangely) never made a peep? Do you suppose he never annoyed anyone when in public? Why does he hold such hostility towards children that are obviously not always to blame for their behavior? I think people like this are some of the few that should NEVER have children of their own because not everyone is meant to. Some people are nurturing, others are not, and that's okay, as long as they recognize it early in life and do not subject a child of their own to their lack of wanting to rear one in the first place.

Originally posted by Swede
I agree Ivan, that kids do indeed spend too much time without adult supervision, being entertained by the tv. This has gotten much worse in the past 20 years. Kids learn from the cartoon network and nickelodeon now.


that's the biggest problem these daze.( i only left the beginning of your quote. ) it costs so much now to live , even a simple life with no frills, that it requires both parents to work now. so the kids get shipped off to day care, baby sitters, and then school. the parents just don't have as much time or energy to relate to their children.
my kids act up on occasion, sometimes a lot, but we deal with it by giving them 4 warnings. and then they get their butts smacked. there is a difference between abuse and discipline. but today's society to do this in public will get the cops called on you for abuse. once at a store my 4 year old said we had to buy him something. we explain that we don't have the money to do so, and then the little fart starts with , "i demand that you stop and listen to me! i demand that you buy me something!" we wonder where he gets this sort of thing. but we ignore him, and then laugh at him, and call him the little dictator. i explain to him he can't have everything he wants. and eventually he gets over it.
i hate to think what it will be like when he is old enough to drive a car. in this area the local high school almost every kid is driving a car to school. most of the parking lot is for the kids cars. i don't blame the kids, i blame their parents for letting it happening. most don't have jobs, it is mommy and daddy buying them a car, or letting them use theirs. it's a status thing, and that puts a lot of pressure on the kids to have one themselves, and they pressure the parents. with us, this will only happen if the kid gets a job, saves enough money to buy thier own and cover their own insurance. sorry kid, mom and dad aren't yuppies. you want it you work for it. and we are now instilling this into our oldest. a 4 year old. to let him know nothing is free.

Kids that are screaming are definitely the parents fault and I too find it irritating as hell in a restaurant. Luckily for me this has seldom happened...actually I don't think it has ever happened where it has continued for longer than a minute or two. Maybe in a grocery store line up but honestly most people push their cart aside and leave.

Next time you are in a restaurant let them know the noise is bothering you.... if the restaurant is descent and you have not yet received your food they would likely offer to move you or not charge you if you prefer to leave.

Maybe you really are a screaming child magnet.... hmmmm.... the only recurring variable here is??????????? :D ;)

Don't put it all on the parents when the kid starts screaming. There's more than one version of the "strong-willed child" who can be a major pain for everyone within 25 meters. There are a whole lot of really screwed up kids out there, some of whom can be straightened out by equally strong willed parents, and some dietary restrictions. Others need very strict supervision and still others need a pharmacy to get through the day.

In the case of your ex-girlfriend's roommate's screaming kid, I think it'll be very annoying, but screaming kids in public places are a fact of life, and while potentially annoying it's really not THAT bad. You are usually exposed to those things for only a short period of time and not that often, most of the time able to keep your distance.

IMO crying toddlers are very tolerable compared to ill-mannered 3~7 year olds. I particularly hate certain kids' tendency to destroy matters. They break stuff you give them, and they break stuff never given to them. And they hurt other people's pets, children. Set things on fire and poison party trays. Okay, I started to exaggerate a little bit towards the end. But you get the idea.

Originally posted by ivan
my kids act up on occasion, sometimes a lot, but we deal with it by giving them 4 warnings. and then they get their butts smacked. there is a difference between abuse and discipline. but today's society to do this in public will get the cops called on you for abuse.

This is definately the reason so many kids act up nowadays. Parents have lost their right to keep their kids in line, and then what happens? Society gets pissy at ya because your kid acts up in public or beats up some kid in school or one of a million other horrible things that could happen.

We don't spank ours because of the fear of losing all of them (well only one now that is still young enough to be taken away). I am a firm believer in "Spare the rod, spoil the child", but we can't practice it. I believe that spankings (or the fear of them) kept me in line throughout my childhood.

I have had friends through the years that have had to hear the horrible words " I'm gonna call HRS! (children and families now)" from their kids in the middle of a heated argument over following house rules. It's terrible. These kids nowadays know that the parents have no way of controlling them, so they walk all over them. I know we have tried taking everything away from our now 16 year old that has the worst temper on earth, because for one, she is WAY beyond spankings, and never got them when she was growing up, and for two she knows all she has to do is pick up a phone and she'll be taken out of our home. So now she has grown into a teenager that thinks she rocks and that that we have no way of stopping her from doing whatever she wants. Maybe if she had grown up like I had (and my husband) where you were conditioned to listen and do the right thing for fear of spankings, maybe she wouldn't be such a pain to deal with now.
And I know I'm going to catch it in the butt from everyone on here that is "anti-spankings", but that's okay. This is my opinion. I have grown up to be a respectful, normal adult and so has my husband and both of us were raised with spankings. In fact, most people that grew up in our day and age were, and yet, nobody see's the direct corralation between those days and how the kids grew up and these days and how THESE kids are growing up. :confused:

Originally posted by Swede
This is definately the reason so many kids act up nowadays. Parents have lost their right to keep their kids in line, and then what happens? Society gets pissy at ya because your kid acts up in public or beats up some kid in school or one of a million other horrible things that could happen.

We don't spank ours because of the fear of losing all of them (well only one now that is still young enough to be taken away). I am a firm believer in "Spare the rod, spoil the child", but we can't practice it. I believe that spankings (or the fear of them) kept me in line throughout my childhood.



i also believe there are many factors with the kids now. i have heard of kids threatening to call HRS on their parents before, and some have done so, even when the kid is in the wrong. kids now do not have the resonsibility that "kids" had in the past. most are born and expect to do nothing to help their family, themselves, etc. until they get through college. sometimes not even then. they go through life expecting everything to be handed to them. from food, a clean house, to a car, playstation, etc.. gimme gimme gimme. they hear about the HRS deal from other kids who know about it. know what i am going to do when i hear this for the first time? "pack your bags and GET OUT!" if my child thinks they can mentally abuse ME, threaten me, or try to bribe me, then they can realize how good they do have it by hitting the streets.
we need to get out of this nuclear family mindset where it takes 2 wage earners to live now, have mom back in the house, AND have our children have some sense of belonging, sense of responsibility within the family, and a sense of right and wrong, and a sense of consequences for actions. until then things are gonna just get worse.