DEMOCRACY REDEFINED!

A TvNewsLIES.org ANALYSIS OF
MANTRA MANIPULATION
BY G. W. BUSH AND THE MEDIA

CARROTS AND WATERMELONS

If George W. Bush were to hold up a carrot and call it a watermelon, the American news media would immediately begin calling carrots watermelons. That’s an undeniable fact. Equally undeniable is the fact that we have long passed the point when we can trust the American corporate media to report the news. But even more distressing is the fact that we now have reached the point when we cannot even trust them with the English language.

Let’s be very clear here: despite media claims to the contrary, the Bush administration has not put forth a single initiative designed to advance democracy, - not in America and not anywhere in the world. In fact, the Bush administration has set in motion programs designed to dismantle our democracy in order that its real goal can be achieved. That real goal is unrestricted capitalism and corporate profit.

Capitalism is fine. Unrestricted capitalism is tyranny. When corporations seek profits with absolutely no concern for the rights and the needs of the people, democracy dies. In this administration, corporate profits supersede all else. In this administration, all legislation is intent upon providing the greatest profits to corporate campaign contributors, and let the people be damned!

Corporate America has been awarded greater freedom of oversight under the Bush administration than every before in history. And for every benefit gained to corporate America, the average citizen in this country has suffered a severe and irreparable loss.

Under Bush Administration initiatives, the American people now have the newly expanded freedom to be unemployed, to be homeless, to be deprived of medical insurance, and to be unable to afford prescription drugs without fear of government interference!

They now have the newly expanded freedom to breathe polluted air, to fear new mercury levels, to see great forests being thinned and pristine lands drilled for oil, and to remain helpless as the planet succumbs to global warming.

They are more free to live with skyrocketing deficits, reduced social programs, exorbitant energy costs, and tax cuts for the wealthy.

They are more free to die in illegal wars, to have their civil liberties disintegrate and see their personal choices invaded by the religious right.

They are more free to be hated by the world community and feared by nations who respected them in the past.


Much more, including chart showing mantras and reality:

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/democracy_redefined.html

Originally posted by skipper7

If George W. Bush were to hold up a carrot and call it a watermelon, the American news media would immediately begin calling carrots watermelons. That’s an undeniable fact.

True.

Almost equally alarming is the fact that 50 million or so of the herd would ALSO begin calling carrots watermelons.

But then, that is the purpose to which the powers-that-be have turned the mainstream news Media.



Originally posted by skipper7

Let’s be very clear here: despite media claims to the contrary, the Bush administration has not put forth a single initiative designed to advance democracy, - not in America and not anywhere in the world. In fact, the Bush administration has set in motion programs designed to dismantle our democracy in order that its real goal can be achieved. That real goal is unrestricted capitalism and corporate profit.

True again.

But once again, an even MORE alarming fact is being missed; it is not with Bush alone or with the Republicans alone that this has happened.

It has been in progress for over 50 years.

Originally posted by skipper7
When corporations seek profits with absolutely no concern for the rights and the needs of the people, democracy dies. In this administration, corporate profits supersede all else. In this administration, all legislation is intent upon providing the greatest profits to corporate campaign contributors, and let the people be damned!

True......it is even more aggregious under Bush and the current fascist government than it was under his predecessors.

Even though I am a big GWB supporter I will be the first to admit that he has not done the best at domestic policies. I voted on his agressive stance on terrorism. But some of the post contridicts itself.

Complaining about the price of oil and complaining about wanting to drill for oil here in America so we do not have to be dependent on OPEC politics.

The fact is that oil prices are high because demand is high. More and more countries are becoming more industrialized and requiring more oil.

The cost of plywood has risen almost 70% percent in the last four years. This is largely due to China's economic boom. We export more plywood to China than the next top three countries combined. Is the rise in the cost of plywood the administration's fault?

Bush does deserve blame for persciption medication costs, inadequate Medicare, failure of public schools and other demestic policies. But this has been on ongoing problem dating back several administrations. What did Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, and Clinton do to prevent todays crisis?

I am not saying that Bush is the greatest president. If the Democrats had put up a stronger candidate I may have voted for him (or lord help me her).

I hope Bush makes some drastic positive changes. If he does not he is setting up the next GOP presidential candidate for failure.

Originally posted by GW_Rules

The cost of plywood has risen almost 70% percent in the last four years. This is largely due to China's economic boom. We export more plywood to China than the next top three countries combined. Is the rise in the cost of plywood the administration's fault?



remember that there were a lot of destructive hurricanes last year.

Originally posted by GW_Rules

I hope Bush makes some drastic positive changes. If he does not he is setting up the next GOP presidential candidate for failure. [/B]

he's done a good enough job as it is. polarized the country to almost half would not vote for him, and his policies are now , finally pissing off more than just liberals and mid road riders, other countries. the man is just a puppet for the rich and corporations. nothing more nothing less.
SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by ivan
he's done a good enough job as it is. polarized the country to almost half would not vote for him, and his policies are now , finally pissing off more than just liberals and mid road riders, other countries. the man is just a puppet for the rich and corporations. nothing more nothing less.
SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!

I agree. He has pissed of some fellow Republican lately. I'm not sure about being a corporate puppet.

If the Democrats put up a more moderate liberal they will win the next election. Hillary has made some moves to the right lately in an effort to prepare for the run in 08'.

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ushill274193009mar27,0,2251479,print.story?coll=ny -nationalnews-headlines

I think America is begging for a candidate to be only slightly left and/or slighty right. I know I am tired of the huge gap in extremely right and left party leaders.

I would love a middle of the road politician, fiscally responsible, socially caring, strong on defense and strong on building America and making it better.

However I do not believe that the far left wackjobs and the far right wackjobs will ever vote for a person like that. A lot of the wackjobs only care about one issue, things like gay marraige or ecology or abortion. They wont vote for someone uslss he sees things their way on the issue that is important to them, ignoring everything else the person stands for.

Good post Echo... I agree (bet you didn't see that coming!)

Unfortunately, the two main parties spend all their time trying to make the other look bad. I doubt either one would nominate and support a true moderate.

It seems not to be the people's wishes that are important, it's each party's personnal "pissing" matches that takes precedent.

Oh geez,

One would think that the right leaning members of this board would show A LITTLE MORE GOD DAMNED BACKBONE!

Anybody here foolish enough to think that Americans elect middle of the roaders or a slightly left leaning candidate is going to have to explain Ronald Reagan. That man was a make-no-bones-about-it conservative. He believed in lowering taxes, smaller government (though that was never fully pulled off) and aggressive foreiegn policy. Especially the foreign policy bit. While the libs wanted to make nice with the Soviet Union (some of you may remember detente) Reagan decided to try a swift and hard kick right between the legs. WHACK! and down went the Soviet Union. Look at that man's legacy. Look what happened when he died. A full week for the funeral, people lined up for hours on end to pay their final respects to the man. Conservatism works, dammit.

What skipper's article is really about is liberal frustration. Web sites all over the place denouncing Bush, moveon.org pouring gobs of money to try to get Bush defeated in the '04 elections, the whole National Guard thing the media has been trying to foist on the American people for some 5 YEARS now, anti-Bush movies and documentaries, war protests against Bush, high lighting every single thing that has gone wrong in Iraq over and over and over and OVER AGAIN and still, the people in this country voted for Bush.

So now, TVnewslies.org has decided that Bush won because the Citizen Joes out there are so stupid that they'll call a carrot a watermelon if Bush said it was. Sometimes, when an polictical opponents starts accusing others of a certain, you can find out what they really think of the American people. So, I wouldn't put past the Left to think the American people are so idiotic, that if they can just come up with the correct phrases and double speak, they can fool the American people into getting back into power.

Speaking of fooling people, GW_Rules, I hope to God you actually don't think that Hillary is truly embracing a moderate, middle of the road style of politics. Because that's a sham.

IF the libs are truly going to come back into power, they are going to have to with reasons why they should get elected, rather than why Bush or any Republican is just plain bad for this country. That strategy really hasn't worked since '94, dammit.

No I do not believe Hillary would ever be a moderate. I do believe she would say anything to make herself more attractive to voters (which is going to take a lot more than that for her to look attractive). It's a smoke screen.

Originally posted by GW_Rules
I'm not sure about (Bush) being a corporate puppet.

Riiiiiight.

I mean, how could we really be sure Bush or any other politician does any political favors for the Corporate benfactors who contribute many millions of dollars to their campaigns?

You know, just because Bush and every other politician in Congress, in passing myriad regulations and laws, invariably take the side of the Corporations over what is best for The People is not proof of anything, is it?!?

It's probably just a huge coincidence, that just happens to have been happening since the time of Abe Lincoln.

Bush a puppet of the Corporatists?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!............aww, who knows.

is going to have to explain Ronald Reagan. That man was a make-no-bones-about-it conservative. He believed in lowering taxes, smaller government (though that was never fully pulled off) and aggressive foreiegn policy. Dont forget trading Guns for drugs with terrorist organizations!!! Or creating terrorist organizations to fight the commies!!!! Man he sure did love terrorists!!!!

Bush is an extreme corporate puppet as oppossed to the rest of the normal coporate puppets that fill congress. Just look at the Bankruptcy bill that came out a month after a study found that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unforseen medical illness.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini

the three rarest words in allforums history: "good post echo" :D:cool:

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini
Okay, enough of this beating around the bush - I'm starting to think 500 might be your kid, FT, or was this just a coincidence?