George W. Bush

Is Our Great Leader finally on the ropes? Having gotten his way on everything from the Patriot Act to tax cuts for the rich to the invasion of Iraq, George W. Bush may have gone a bridge too far with his plan to destroy Social Security. Last week Bush announced that he would be focusing on "the financial problems facing Social Security, signaling a shift in tactics amid a slide in support for his private account plan," according to Reuters. A recent poll revealed that 69 percent of respondents disapproved of Bush's plan when they found out that it would cut guaranteed benefits.

Mind you, never let anyone say that Dubya is a flip-flopper - last week he also "dismissed the notion ... that his campaign to create private accounts in Social Security was in serious trouble," according to the New York Times. See? He's staying the course, while simultaneously, um, shifting tactics. And just in case anyone had forgotten to be scared, Bush ratcheted up the fear saying that "something drastic has to happen" to save Social Security.

Good grief. Does everything this administration does have to be drastic? I mean, these days we seem to be invading countries before they can attack us with weapons they don't have, amending the Constitution so gays can't ruin straight people's marriages, creating record deficits through enormous tax cuts for the rich in order to "save" the economy... it's drastic, drastic, drastic all over the bloody place. Maybe the Bush administration needs to take a Valium.

Yeah, we had to immediately invade Iraq too because they had WMD's that could be delivered within 45 minutes.

No one listens to him anymore -- there's just no credibility left.

Dop

Your right, dop,

There isn't credibility with the Left. First Clinton says Social Security is a problem, THEN he offers a plan to privatize some of Social Security, and the Dems applaud. Of course NOW that Bush is saying that Social Security is a problem and is offering to privatize some of OUR OWN money, you guys on the Left have the utter gall to declare that there is NOT a problem with Social Securiy and that Bush is out to wreck it.

What a joke, dammit.

so dop and echo are saying S is fine and dandy and can roll on forever as is?

I never even mentioned SS. Darth could find nothing to dispute about my post so he made a poor attempt to de-rail the string by bringing up an entirely different subjest. It's called deflection.

LOL - Just checking to see if you really read posts or automatically start ranting about liberals whenever Dop or I post.

you have gone complety insane, it is official. re read your fucking post and tell me you do not mention SS. are you just trying to be annoying or do you really believe you didnt say anything about SS?

Part of Echo's post,

George W. Bush may have gone a bridge too far with his plan to destroy Social Security. Last week Bush announced that he would be focusing on "the financial problems facing Social Security, signaling a shift in tactics amid a slide in support for his private account plan," according to Reuters. A recent poll revealed that 69 percent of respondents disapproved of Bush's plan when they found out that it would cut guaranteed benefits.

You say that you've never mentioned Social Security, I just PULLED YOUR QUOTE FROM YOU GOD DAMNED THREAD, what in the sam hell are you talking about if it isn't Social Security.

You can either put your foot in your mouth, or edit out the social security part of your original post.

Dammit, I've got to put those deflector shields up!

Originally posted by Travh20
so dop and echo are saying S is fine and dandy and can roll on forever as is?

Darth

One more time ... here's the fix which no one and I mean no one can dispute ...

Totallty lift the cap. Done deal.

Now that wasn't so hard was it?

ROTF

Dop

Stop rolling on the floor, Dop.

You know as well as I do that the second you send more tax money to Congress, the money disapears, and Congress looks for another source.

For a demonstration of that, look to NYC and what it's done as far as the big Tobacco settlement. That money has been put in bond for years and years and years to fund schools in NYC. Which wasn't the original intent of the Big Tobacco settlement.

Just trying to see if you two really read posts or just automatically start screaming about liberals whenever Dop or I post things.

For the record. The Clinton administartion said that SS needed some changes and proposed lifting the cap. The republicans refused to go for it and screamed that there was nothing wrong with SS. Now the Reps are screaming that it neads fixing and they want to change the entire thing so it costs more to run and pays out less.

Originally posted by Travh20
re read your fucking post and tell me you do not mention SS.
Yeah, she mentioned it, but it was in the cut and pasted section; not in the part she worded herself.

God love her - it kind of makes me feel badly that I've ripped her so many times...

Her last entry was the sorriest attempt to cover up a flagrant error I've ever been a witness to.

From now on, Trav, take it easy on Echo; for it's fairly obvious she lacks the capacity to understand her arguments - and if anyone could add insult to injury, she has, because even her own statements befuddle her. :(

Originally posted by Darth Be'lal
Stop rolling on the floor, Dop.

You know as well as I do that the second you send more tax money to Congress, the money disapears, and Congress looks for another source.

For a demonstration of that, look to NYC and what it's done as far as the big Tobacco settlement. That money has been put in bond for years and years and years to fund schools in NYC. Which wasn't the original intent of the Big Tobacco settlement.

Point taken Darth and no argument about congress spending money like a drunken sailor (sorry sailors world wide but I use to be one and know what I'm talking about -- LOL)

Still, the original problem remains ... bush blew the federal wad on this war and the tax cuts for his 2% buddies. Now he needs to get his hands on the SS funds to continue handing out the corporate welfare to Halliburton and crew.

And we already have private accounts ... they're called 401K's and IRA's.

Dop

Originally posted by Echo2
I never even mentioned SS. Darth could find nothing to dispute about my post so he made a poor attempt to de-rail the string by bringing up an entirely different subjest. It's called deflection.


You would know....its exactly what you do. I refute some of what you say and i need to work on my "reading comprehension" LOL