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J_Lively
12-05-2002, 02:49 PM
Bill Maher remains 'Politically Incorrect'

(CNN) -- Comedian Bill Maher defined "Politically Incorrect" as the host of the aptly named late-night talk show on ABC.

His shoot-from-the-lip observations have won him many fans, but his comments about the September 11 attacks helped lead to his show's demise in May.

Maher stepped into the "Crossfire" with hosts Paul Begala and Tucker Carlson to discuss politics and his new book, "When You Ride Alone You Ride With bin Laden" (New Millennium).

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/28/cf.opinion.bill.maher/index.html

DaveTooner
12-05-2002, 04:24 PM
I think it is hilarious how people like this pinhead will say "religion is dangerous," and then point to all the screwed up things religious people did (their actions not being condoned by their respective religion, mind you). By this logic we could say athiesm is dangerous, or any belief, be it religious or otherwise, because people of all walks of life have done awful things.

I will say one thing for the man, however -- he is fair in how he distributes the criticism. Many folks will make statements like "religion is dangerous" but when they get specific, they only criticize Christianity. These people are a bit skiddish when it comes to attacking Islam, Buddism, etc etc.

J_Lively
12-05-2002, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by DaveTooner
I think it is hilarious how people like this pinhead will say "religion is dangerous," and then point to all the screwed up things religious people did (their actions not being condoned by their respective religion, mind you). By this logic we could say athiesm is dangerous, or any belief, be it religious or otherwise, because people of all walks of life have done awful things.

I agree with you. When one starts labeling groups of people using generalizations, they are wrong, and are often proven wrong.

Originally posted by DaveTooner
I will say one thing for the man, however -- he is fair in how he distributes the criticism. Many folks (namely liberals) will make statements like "religion is dangerous" but when they get specific, they only criticize Christianity. These people are a bit skiddish when it comes to attacking Islam, Buddism, etc etc.

Now, Dave, you're generalizing. Maher is a self-proclaimed liberal, and by his views, he has proven your generalizations of liberals wrong.

DaveTooner
12-05-2002, 06:01 PM
Oh really? When in that post did I generalize liberals? All I said was that most of the time, the people I described are liberals. Nowhere did I say all liberals were like this.

J_Lively
12-05-2002, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by DaveTooner
Oh really? When in that post did I generalize liberals? All I said was that most of the time, the people I described are liberals. Nowhere did I say all liberals were like this.

You said, "Many folks (namely liberals) will make statements like "religion is dangerous" but when they get specific, they only criticize Christianity."

Perhaps, you didn't feel that was a generalization, but what if I said, "Many folks I talk to about civil rights (namely conservatives) are prejudiced and feel blacks are not as good as whites and, therefore, do not deserve the same rights." My example is just that, an example. I don't truly believe most (namely) conservatives feel this way or that, but my example shows a sweeping generalization in the same way your authentic statement did. You were saying that liberals attack Christianity, and you meant to point out liberals or you would have left it at "many folks."

If you don't want to think of your statement as a generalization, fine. Atleast, I'm sure you can admit it was certainly slanted towards making liberals the anti-Christian villians.

DaveTooner
12-06-2002, 08:12 AM
Well good grief, please allow me to reword it for you.

J_Lively
12-06-2002, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by DaveTooner
Well good grief, please allow me to reword it for you.

:D

It's okay. I think we all know you don't like liberals, so we have to take anti-liberal comments from you with a grain of salt.

Tentmaker
12-06-2002, 08:49 PM
CARLSON: So Islam itself, and I suppose you'd say Christianity and Judaism and environmentalism and all of the other religions, but Islam particularly is the problem. It's not just that the religion has been perverted by wackos. It's intrinsic to the religion. ...

MAHER: I think both things are true. I think it has been perverted by wackos. But yes, I think there is a lot going on in the religion and in the culture. I mean, let's face it. Religions are also cultures.
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Maher is right, even though he shows he knows nothing of religion. Throughout history it has been the whackos who have perverted real religion, and changed it into a grotesque absurdity befitting their failed gewnetic coding.

Tentmaker