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Decka
02-08-2005, 03:30 PM
okay...i just watched JFK the movie....and oliver stone got me ALL pumped up on anti-government cookies.....

But i was curious to know this:

There are thousands and thousands of documents that are with-held or blocked out from the american public. If you look at the very core of government...it is exactly what Stone was talking about- by the people for the people. So because it IS supposedly OUR government...is there a law they passed that allows them to NOT show us documents? Or is our government really that shady?

Echo2
02-08-2005, 03:44 PM
Documents that contain information that is vital to our national security can be withheld form the public. However, you would be amazed what certain government officials deem IS vital to our security.

They police themselves - do you trust your politicians to release any and all information that isn't vital to our national security?

Ed Blank
02-08-2005, 03:46 PM
Yeah the government is that shady. They are even more shady than that.

ivan
02-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Decka
okay...i just watched JFK the movie....and oliver stone got me ALL pumped up on anti-government cookies.....

But i was curious to know this:

There are thousands and thousands of documents that are with-held or blocked out from the american public. If you look at the very core of government...it is exactly what Stone was talking about- by the people for the people. So because it IS supposedly OUR government...is there a law they passed that allows them to NOT show us documents? Or is our government really that shady?


uh yes, it stole, lied,killed,spread disease intentionally,and cheated to get the fuckin continent. and still think it was ok.;) :@@:

500lbguerilla
02-08-2005, 04:39 PM
Learn this well " the government doesnt give a fuck about you, never has, never will" If fact almost no governments have ever cared for their people. In fact the only reason you arent in jail or dead is because you give them money under threat of violence and slavery and youre happy little consummer ideals keeps the dollar afloat.

Look at Venezuala and Haiti. 2 leaders that were making drastic improvements to thier citizens living conditions. Their only crime was not liking the US. So they were repeatedly demonized by the owning class and their American counterparts. This lead to coups in their countries. Unseccessful in venzuela, do to popular counter cuop, and with the help of a US kidnapping was successful in Haiti and has lead to violence and disparity.

Same thing with Venezuela in the 80's. the US had to resot to terrorism because if the sandinistas set a sustainable and properous future the US would lose it fiefdoms throughout S.America.

US Invokes Secrets Privilege in Torture Lawsuit
http://www.antiwar.com/ips/fisher.php?articleid=4697

The Emergence of the Homeland Security State
http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=4637

500lbguerilla
02-08-2005, 05:35 PM
Government is solely interested in self-propagation. You serve it, not the other way around. Just like the your boss needs you, you dont need your boss.
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Government and Tyranny

Just looking at some quotes from the brilliant minds of history and comparing them to Dubya`s musings, you start to see a worrying trend.The final quote from Scottish historian Sir Alex Fraser Tytler is perhaps the most worrying, when applied to the USA today..
http://www.djpauledge.com/blog.php?id=59