Pentagon sites: Journalism or propaganda?
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/04/web.us/index.html

'Cash for Commentary' is Business as Usual
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0204-31.htm

The Return of PSYOPS
Military's media manipulation demands more investigation
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1983

White House-friendly reporter under scrutiny
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/02/02/white_house_friendly_reporter_under_scrutiny/
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I dont agree that the Talon news guy isnt a "real" journalist. hes just shitty one. The question remains however why is it that good journalists are constantly passed over for asking real questions while a shitty one is called on constantly to paint roses. Why don't the police or whitehouse recognize any online journalist from IMC ( indymedia.org ), or any online source for that matter, except his one guy?

Wow no one has anything to say at all about this topic?

Not even "well at least were better than those other countries where the state controls the media"....Oh wait...

Or is it that no one wants to bother reading the articles? I'd be willing to give a description but then unimformed people find a need to argue a point thats clearly addressed in the article.

I got something to say, drop dead scumbag.

ahhh, poor babys angry.

first thing you got right since you got here

Whats wrong you cant handle the truth, ethics or both?

"You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it."
— Malcolm X

Originally posted by Travh20
I got something to say, drop dead scumbag.
I have something to say as well. If you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion...
http://home.satx.rr.com/gregron/STFU.jpg

Calif. Gov. 'News' Videos Cause a Stir
The Associated Press

Sacramento - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's administration has acknowledged making several videos masquerading as news stories to promote its agenda, creating an uproar from Democrats and labor leaders in a controversy parallel to one ignited by the Bush administration.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/031205Z.shtml

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla

I dont agree that the Talon news guy isnt a "real" journalist. hes just shitty one.

I agree.

The problem for me was NOT that Gannon/Guckert was nothing but another in the looooooooooong line of toadies for the RightWing DisInformation Ministry [aka, the mainstream Media].......the thing that made me puke was the hypocrisy of the fascists in charge who poo-pooed the whole incident and swept it under the rug.....when every person in this country knows that had it happened under an e-ville Demoncratic politician's watch, it would be page one on all major newspapers and the lead story on the nightly news, with Republicans screaming for someone's head over it.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
The question remains however why is it that good journalists are constantly passed over for asking real questions while a shitty one is called on constantly to paint roses. Why don't the police or whitehouse recognize any online journalist from IMC ( indymedia.org ), or any online source for that matter, except his one guy?

It's called controlling the dissemination of information, 500lbGuerilla.

The Conserva-Fascists know better than to EVER allow the great unwashed masses to have the TRUTH reported to them of what the leaders in charge are perpetrating.

Leo Strauss --one of the most important intellectual influences on the conservative [read; fascist] ideology that controls Washington--- laid it out long ago.

"Strauss believed that societies should be hierarchical – divided between an elite who should lead, and the masses who should follow. According to Shadia Drury, who teaches politics at the University of Calgary, Strauss believed that "those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right – the right of the superior to rule over the inferior."

This dichotomy requires "perpetual deception" between the rulers and the ruled, according to Drury. Robert Locke, another Strauss analyst says,"The people are told what they need to know and no more." While the elite few are capable of absorbing the absence of any moral truth, Strauss thought, the masses could not cope. If exposed to the absence of absolute truth, they would quickly fall into nihilism or anarchy, according to Drury, author of 'Leo Strauss and the American Right' (St. Martin's 1999)."

Originally posted by Travh20
I got something to say, drop dead scumbag.
Yeah........after all......The Crusade is going so well!! :rolleyes:


http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/ips_rich_content/10_crusade.jpg

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Sacramento - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's administration has acknowledged making several videos masquerading as news stories to promote its agenda........
It's gettin' BETTER!!!!!!!!! (http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10884)

:eek:

I know all about it FT.

I was merely waiting for one of the righties to chime in but like always they will ignore this thread or just fill it with insults rather than arguments.

It is undefendable.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Wow no one has anything to say at all about this topic?
When the U.S. taxpayers are financing Lil' Dumbya's news-services???? (http://www.stopfakenews.org/)

Hardly......... :rolleyes:

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"Many of the fake news segments produced and disseminated by the Bush administration violate laws that prohibit the government from using taxpayer dollars for political lobbying activities. The GAO has concluded that a number of Bush administration television segments misused public funds and "violated the publicity or propaganda prohibitions."

Ahh... great so now it turns out that tons of these covert national propaganda releases have been given to various news outlets.

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Under Bush, a New Age of Prepackaged TV News

Under the Bush administration, the federal government has aggressively used a well-established tool of public relations: the prepackaged, ready-to-serve news report that major corporations have long distributed to TV stations to pitch everything from headache remedies to auto insurance. In all, at least 20 federal agencies, including the Defense Department and the Census Bureau, have made and distributed hundreds of television news segments in the past four years, records and interviews show. Many were subsequently broadcast on local stations across the country without any acknowledgement of the government's role in their production.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/politics/13covert.html?oref=login

log in: bugmenot.com

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Oh please feel free to rant on and on about the "liberal media" hehehe

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Oh please feel free to rant on and on about the "liberal media" hehehe
And of these four questionably biased sources, which one offers solid proof without the sensationalism associated with a site that's admittedly committed to "breaking news & views for the progressive community"? Please, 500, go waste someone else's time...

"He that will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not, is a slave." --William Drummond
Didn't this guy own Arnold and Willis?

Why to cram your head in the sand Prea...

Just because you question my sources doesnt mean what they are saying isnt true. And if you question my sources why dont you find your own and refute what I posted rather than playing the "I gonna assume your sources are bunk so I dont have to answer any hard questions..."

Run and hide.

Originally posted by 500lbguerilla
Oh please feel free to rant on and on about the "liberal media" hehehe

I'm not sure if you're saying that the media isn't liberal because it's airing pieces produced by the administration? If so, this was taken from your posted article:

The practice, which also occurred in the Clinton administration, is continuing despite President Bush's recent call for a clearer demarcation between journalism and government publicity efforts.