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Travis Grimes
02-04-2005, 06:45 PM
Why Does Windows Still Suck?
Why do PC users put up with so many viruses and worms? Why isn't everyone on a Mac?

So about a year ago, the SO finally upgraded her Net connection to DSL, carefully installed the Yahoo! DSL software into her creaky Sony Vaio PC laptop and ran through all the checks and install verifications and appropriate nasty disclaimers.

And all seemed to go smoothly and reasonably enough considering it was a Windows PC and therefore nothing was really all that smooth or reasonable or elegant, but whatever. She just wanted to get online. Should be easy as 1-2-3, claimed the Yahoo! guide. Painless as tying your shoe, said the phone company.

She got online all right. The DSL worked great. For about four minutes.

Then, something happened. Something attacked. Something swarmed her computer the instant she tried to move around online and the computer slowed and bogged and cluttered and crashed, and multiple restarts and debuggings and what-the-hells only brought up only a flood of nightmarish pop-up windows and terrifying error messages and massive system slowdowns and all manner of inexplicable claims of infestation of this worm and that Trojan horse and did we want to buy McAfee AntiVirus protection for $39.95?

Four minutes. And she was already DOA.

My SO, she is not alone. This exact same scenario, with only slight variation, is happening throughout the nation, right now. Are you using a PC? You probably have spyware. The McAfee site claims a whopping 91 percent of PCs are infected. As every Windows user knows, PCs are ever waging a losing battle with a stunningly vicious array of malware and worms and viruses, all aimed at exploiting one of about ten thousand security flaws and holes in Microsoft Windows.

Here, then, is my big obvious question: Why the hell do people put up with this? Why is there not some massive revolt, some huge insurrection against Microsoft? Why is there not a huge contingent of furious users stomping up to Seattle with torches and scythes and crowbars, demanding the Windows Frankenstein monster be sacrificed at the altar of decent functionality and an elegant user interface?


There is nothing else like this phenomenon in the entire consumer culture. If anything else performed as horribly as Windows, and on such a global scale, consumers would scream bloody murder and demand their money back and there would be some sort of investigation, class-action litigation, a demand for Bill Gates' cute little geeky head on a platter.

Here is your brand new car, sir. Drive it off the lot. Yay yay new car. Suddenly, new car shuts off. New car barely starts again and then only goes about 6 miles per hour and it belches smoke and every warning light on the dashboard is blinking on and off and the tires are screaming and the heater is blasting your feet and something smells like burned hair. You hobble back to the dealer, who only says, gosh, sorry, we thought you knew -- that's they way they all run. Enjoy!

Would you not be, like, that is the goddamn last time I buy a Ford?

I see it all around me. All Chronicle employees receive regular email warnings from our IT department about all sorts of viruses that are coming their way and aiming for company PCs. The AP tech newswires are full tales of newly hatched viruses and worms and Trojan horses and insidious spyware programs sweeping networks and wreaking havoc on PCs and causing all manner of international problems, and all exploiting this or that serious flaw in the Windows OS.

Oh yes, the Serious Windows Flaw. This is astounding indeed. It seems not a month goes by that Gates & Co. isn't announcing yet another Microsoft Security Bulletin, one that could cause serious problems for users and networks and millions of Web sites alike, could compromise your personal data and make it very easy for any 10-year-old hacker to waltz right into your hard drive and swipe your credit card info and wipe out all your porn and read your secret emails to the babysitter and won't you please hurry over to Microsoft.com and download Major Windows Security Bug Fix #10-524-5b?

There have been not a few of these dire warnings. There have been dozens. Maybe hundreds. Each more dire and alarming than the last.

And with very few exceptions, every Mac owner everywhere on the planet simply looks at all this viral chaos and spyware noise and Microsoft apologia and shrugs. And smiles. And pretty much ignores it all outright, and gets back to work. (By the way, yes, I own a tiny handful of Apple stock. Do I need to advocate for Mac? Hardly. I'm already happy as can be thanks to the success of the brilliant, world-altering iPod.)

It's very simple. The Mac really has few, if any, known viruses or major debilitating anything, no spyware and no Trojans and no worms, and sure I've been affected by a couple email bugs over the years, but those were mostly related to my mail server and ISP. For the most part and for all intents and purposes, Macs are immune. Period.

I know of what I speak. I am not a novice. I've been using Macs almost daily for 15 years. I am online upward of 10-12 hours a day. I run multiple Net-connected programs at all times. I receive upward of 500 emails a day, much of it nasty spam that often comes with weird indecipherable attachments that try, in vain, to infiltrate my machine. My Mac just shrugs them off and keeps working perfectly. I dump them all in the trash and never look back.

I'm a power user. And I have yet to suffer a single debilitating virus or worm or spyware or malware whatsoever. Not one problem in 15 years, save the time I spilled water in the keyboard of my PowerBook and I took off the back and let it dry out for two days and it worked perfectly.

Oh, I know all the arguments as to why Macs aren't the dominant system in the world. I know Apple screwed up 20 years ago by not licensing its OS, and Gates stumbled in and made a killing by stealing the Mac's look and feel but mangling the actual usability and thus irritating about 150 million people for the next 20 years.

I know Macs are (well, were) more expensive, even though they're really not, when you finally jam that ugly cheapass Dell with enough video cards and sound cards and disk burners to make it comparable to a Mac that comes with all of it, standard.

I know Macs are not perfect, that there have been a handful of serious Apple security fixes over the years, and even a few rumored viruses and spyware apps (though rarely any reports of major server attacks or system shutdowns). I know Apple releases regular security updates of its own. The Mac is not flawless. But it's damn close.

And I know, finally, the argument that says that if the world was using Macs instead of PCs, the hackers would be attacking the Macs. It's a game of numbers, after all. Anti-Mac pundits always mutter the same thing as they install yet another PC bug fix: there just aren't enough Macs out there to warrant a hacker's attention.

Which is, of course, mostly bull. I'm no programmer, but I know what I read, and I know my experience: the Mac OS architecture is much more robust, much more solid, much more difficult to hack into. Apple's software is, by default, more sound and reliable, given its more stable core. (Sometime in the later '90s, a Mac org whose name I forget ran a rather amazing hacker competition: they offered a $13,000 cash prize to anyone in the world who could hack into the company's unprotected Mac server and alter the contest's home page in any way. Needless to say, no one ever could).

Perhaps there is something I'm missing. Maybe there's something I don't understand as to why there is not a massive rush of consumers and IT managers to dump PCs in favor of Macs (or even Linux OS). Surely thousands (millions?) of work-hours have been lost nationwide as tech departments spend untold months debugging and installing PC virus protections and keeping abreast of the latest and greatest worm to come down the pike, all due to Microsoft's lousy software.

Am I being unfair? Maybe. Hell, I'm sure Windows has its gnarled and wary defenders, war-torn and battle-tested folk who still insist that, because there's more software available for the Windows OS, it's somehow superior -- though I challenge them to name one significant, common activity the Mac can't do as well as, if not better than, PCs. For 97 percent of users in the world, Macs would be a more elegant and intuitive and appealing solution. Period.

So then. Here's hoping the new, incredibly affordable Mac Mini converts a hundred million people to Mac in the next year. Here's hoping the borderline illegal and monopolistic domination of Microsoft comes to an end in the next decade. Apple appears poised, finally, again, ready to take over the consumer world. Hell, thousands of glorious iPods have already infiltrated the Microsoft campus up in Redmond, causing MS management no end of humiliation and frustration. Can revolution be far behind?


And what about my SO's PC woes? Well, after her Vaio was so violently debilitated, and after being told by various experts that it would require nothing short of a complete (and very expensive) Windows system debugging and OS reinstall followed by a mandatory soak of the machine in a tub of bleach and then spraying it with a thick coat of road tar as she waved a burning effigy of Steve Ballmer over it while chanting the text of the Official Microsoft 'Screw You Sucker' Windows Troubleshooting Guide, she promptly dumped the useless hunk of sad landfill and bought herself a beautiful new iBook.

And of course, in a year of solid use, she has yet to have a single problem.

LionelHutz
02-04-2005, 07:30 PM
Having had a Quadra 650 and a B&W G3 I think I can speak with some authority on this subject. Whatever flaws Windows has, and it certain has plenty of them, it's got to the point where it's incredibly user friendly. Frankly, OS X gave me more troubles than I ever got from my Dell's Win XP. And I really disliked the GUI in OS X. Basically Windows got to the point where there was it was no longer worth paying twice as much for the computer and put up with having to order any software you want over the internet because no one sells it locally.

I have to say, even when I was really into Macs, I never understood why some people were such zealots about it. It's just a damn computer, not a religion.

Travis Grimes
02-04-2005, 08:05 PM
Well first off I think your lieing about trouble with OS x.

THere is a reason why Mac users are zealots and love their computers, because IT NEVER LETS THEM DOWN. WHen someone loves their computer or any product for that matter, it's because they believe in the product. In other words,the product is good and worth being in love with.

I have never met a PC user that loves their computer fanatically. Reason, BECAUSE PC SUCKS.
It is a flawed system.

I to use both OS systems and hands down I love my mac better. I love it so much i stopped using windows all together. Why bother.

As far as the store and buying sofware comment, I can get almost any software for my Mac. I would rather order it online to begin with for a couple of reasons.
1 I am too lazy to go to the store. I would rather just sit on my ass and order it

2 Cheaper. Why pay higher prices at stores like staples and circuit city, when you can order the same software online at places like MacMall, ebay, or amazon

One other comment. The reason why mac users are so fanatical is because mac INVENTS the technology and PC copies off it with a lessor success i might add. When you look at all the products like see through pens, toasters, etc, it is because mac revolutionized the world with the imac and the see through colors. Mac invented the ipod, now they are inventing the smallest desktop ever the MAC MINI. GO to apple.com and see the greatness.

The reason why mac can do all this is because they don't spend the entire time trying to stop viruses and worms. PC computers are boring looking, cheaper, generic parts, etc. They consume their entire time trying to stop viruses that they dont spend any time CREATING greatness.

When you open a Mac you see great hardware parts like Viking Ram, Seagate hard drives, ATI video cards, etc.

WHen you open up a PC you see a GENERIC hard drive that says IBM compatible, generic no name video and sound cards. Mac comes with brand names in their computers.

I laugh at how PCs like Dell, Compaq, IBM build their computers. Everything is generic. Hell the computers are so cheap you can literally push the sides in with a single touch. I call those types COOKIE TINS

But if you are into a worm invested, disease virus catcher like windows go right ahead and use it. But know this, the day I took my windows based computer out of the box it NEVER ran like it first did, even after the d frags and all that annoying stuff, it always feels sluggish. My MAC on the other hand, works today the same as it did right out of the box. I NEVER run a d frag on a Mac because there is no such thing. Mac has a disk repair (like d frag on a PC) but no mac users ever use it. Simply because we DONT NEED TO. Mac downloads are not thrown all over the hard drive. Mac download places 1 icon in the application folder, and 1 icon in the extention folder, that is it. Programs DO NOT SHARE extentions like they do in PC, making it difficult to throw any programs away you don't want.

The article stated best, IF YOU BUY A NEW CAR you want that car working the best. You don't buy a car off the lot only to have it go bad a day later.

PC users need to do a lot more complaining, you guys should revolt or something against Bill Gates and his SPAGETTI style plateform

LionelHutz
02-05-2005, 10:34 PM
Ah, I can see you're especially open minded person.

And I'm not lying about OS X. What would be my motivation to do so? I'm not a fanatical Windows user or something. My G3 is at my in-law's house right now giving reliable service. Although it randomly does odd things, like suddenly ads every single program to the dock, or moves the dock to the other side of the desktop.

My Dell is filled with high-quality parts, thank you. Some PCs are junk, some are good. Don't over-generalize. Macs obviously look better than any PC. Unfortunately sometimes that's comes back to get you later. My friend with the Centris 615A/V could upgrade much because the box didn't have decent expansion ports. Same deal with my brother's LCIII. Can't do much to most iMacs either. That damn one button hockey puck mouse really blew, good thing they fixed that. Although a one-button mouse is still really backwards. And my G3 monitor with the 3-legged stand was a bitch to put on a desk because it took up so damn much room. Form is great, but when it sacrifices too much function it gets irritating.

I really loved my Mac, but when people stopped making software that would run on 8.6, I had to upgrade to OSX. But then running all of my huge amounts of legacy software from with OSX was too damned unstable and took too long to load and was a massive pain in the ass. So that's when I bailed.

Travis Grimes
02-06-2005, 01:17 AM
Well if you are putting X into a computer that is running 8.6 software, GOOD LUCK. That is like tring to load windows XP into a 1996 computer. Same results.

Mac now has a 30 inch flat screen monitor. It also has the new Mac mini the smallest desktop ever.

Go to apple.com and check out the creative products of Mac.

I will say it again, there is a reason why people like myself are fanatical about Macs. I have never come across any PC user that is fanatical about windows.

Mac user sees his apple mac as a Corvette, porche, viper

a PC user sees his PC as a station wagon,

Also, I have never seen the Dock on X move when it wants to. Programs also dont just get loaded to the dock either.

The problem is PC users don't understand the Mac computer so they make assumptions based on ignorance. 2 examples. The miss conception about right mouse clicking on a single button mouse. First off a single button mac mouse has right mouse options. You click and hold for 1 sec and the right mouse options come up. You don't need 2 buttons to do that. However, if you want a 2 button mouse, you can use one on mac. Another miss conception is the mouse wire length. Some idiot wrote an article about the mac mouse wire being too short he couldn't get the usb to the back of the computer. WHAT AN IDIOT. THe jerk should have done his homework and he would have realized that the mac mouse gets plugged into the keyboard sides (left or right) There are 2 usb ports right on the keyboard. One does not need a 2 foot long cable to hook to the keyboard. Most pc computers are starting to do the usb ports on the keyboard ( BUT WE ALL KNOW MAC INVENTED IT) Just like they invent everything.

All the things you take for granted on a computer mac started.

Mac was first
1 to put sound on a computer.
2 go beyond doss with ACTUAL icons on a desktop
3 DROP AND DRAG mac invented it
4 music sequencing on a computer was done first on macs
5 ipods
6 downloading LEGAL music from online music store
7 30 inch flat screen
8 mac mini (smallest desktop EVER)

Plus Mac gives you quality software when you buy the computer like ilife which consist of 5 MULTIMEDIA programs like imovie, idvd, iphot, itunes, and garageband. PC computers come with toys software. If you want decent video software you have to add like another 100 to 200 dollars and go out and buy one. WIth mac great multimedia software already comes installed.

LionelHutz
02-06-2005, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Travis Grimes
Well if you are putting X into a computer that is running 8.6 software, GOOD LUCK. That is like tring to load windows XP into a 1996 computer. Same results.

It was a blue and white G3. If I wasn't supposed to load it on there Apple shouldn't have told me I could. And I'm not saying it ran like crap or something - it ran fine. All I said is that I had more trouble with it than I've had with XP, which is true, because I've had zero troubles with XP.


Originally posted by Travis Grimes
Also, I have never seen the Dock on X move when it wants to. Programs also dont just get loaded to the dock either.

I have, and they did.

Originally posted by Travis Grimes
The problem is PC users don't understand the Mac computer so they make assumptions based on ignorance.



I hope that's not aimed at me. I used Macs for 13 years, and Apple IIs for many years before that. I've had a PC for 2 years.

Originally posted by Travis Grimes
2 examples. The miss conception about right mouse clicking on a single button mouse. First off a single button mac mouse has right mouse options. You click and hold for 1 sec and the right mouse options come up. You don't need 2 buttons to do that. However, if you want a 2 button mouse, you can use one on mac.

Of course you can. You can also hold down the CTRL button (or is it the Apple button? I've already forgotten) to get the contextual menu. But you know what's easier? A right mouse button. You shouldn't have to go buy one.

Originally posted by Travis Grimes
Mac was first
1 to put sound on a computer.
2 go beyond doss with ACTUAL icons on a desktop
3 DROP AND DRAG mac invented it
4 music sequencing on a computer was done first on macs
5 ipods
6 downloading LEGAL music from online music store
7 30 inch flat screen
8 mac mini (smallest desktop EVER)

Yep. What's your point? Apple's an incredibly innovative company. Absolutely. Of course Xerox invented the GUI. And Apple invented the PDA too, but would prefer to forget it.

Originally posted by Travis Grimes
Plus Mac gives you quality software when you buy the computer like ilife which consist of 5 MULTIMEDIA programs like imovie, idvd, iphot, itunes, and garageband. PC computers come with toys software. If you want decent video software you have to add like another 100 to 200 dollars and go out and buy one. WIth mac great multimedia software already comes installed.

Yep. If I were doing video production or ad work or using Photoshop I'd absolutely get a Mac. All I do is surf the net, download digital pictures (without problems), word process, and play a few games that I can't get on the Mac.

I'm not anti-Mac. I'm anti-"everyone who buys a PC is a mindless sheep."

Izeberg
02-06-2005, 08:54 PM
damn travis you are annoying. you think you know everything, you think mac/apple is god.
you repeat yourself non stop. you think the mac mini is so great that you need to mention it various times. they put the cheapest smallest parts available in a 6.5 inch box. i can do the same with pc parts, its just no pc company is gonna make a box for 500 bucks when you can get a laptop with better specs for 150 more which would be the price of a monitor/keyboard/mouse which of course the mac mini doesnt have.

20 gig ipods are 300 bucks you can get other good brand mp3 players of the same size for about a hundred less.

you are never gonna convert people to mac, try getting people to use linux if you hate windows so much, its much easier.
and then you say linux, you can't do anything with that. so let me repeat myself. linux is just as easy to configure and most often as stable if not more than osx. it has programs for all my daily needs. i can emulate most windows programs and then if i need to use windows for gaming or programs that don't emulate well, which isnt many, i reboot and load windows, all on one PC....thats amazing, someone should put that in a box and sell it, oh wait a minute i think they have and it comes with a keyboard and a mouse with at least 2 and most often 3 buttons, and believe me they work wonderful

Lokideviluk
02-07-2005, 02:29 AM
I did a full install of Fedora Linux and sweet damn the amount of programs it gives you, All doing what i needed and all working flawlessly with my software.

Intitial download took ages but it was worth it :)

Izeberg
02-08-2005, 08:18 AM
thats awesome loki.

just in case you dont know
www.freshmeat.net is all about open source programs, so if you need something you can probably find it there....also www.google.com/linux helps me solve problems pretty well too :D