Here, take a look at this :D



Marine General: Its fun to Shoot People

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A three-star Marine general who said it was "fun to shoot some people" should have chosen his words more carefully, the Marine Corps commandant said Thursday.

Lt. Gen. James Mattis, who commanded Marine expeditions in Afghanistan and Iraq, made the comments Tuesday during a panel discussion in San Diego, California.

"Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot," Mattis said, prompting laughter from some military members in the audience. "It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Mattis' press office has not yet responded to a request to answer questions about his comments.

However, the Marine commandant, Gen. Michael Hagee, defended Mattis, calling him "one of this country's bravest and most experienced military leaders."

"While I understand that some people may take issue with the comments made by him, I also know he intended to reflect the unfortunate and harsh realities of war," he said in a written statement. "Lt. Gen. Mattis often speaks with a great deal of candor."

Hagee said he had counseled Mattis regarding the remarks and that Mattis "agrees he should have chosen his words more carefully."

"Throughout our history, Marines have given their lives in the defense of this nation and human rights around the globe," Hagee's statement read. "When necessary, this commitment helps to provide us the fortitude to take the lives of those who oppress others or threaten this nation's security. This is not something we relish, yet we accept it as a reality in our profession of arms."

"Lt. Gen. Mattis is a superb leader and one of the Corps' most courageous and experienced warriors," Hagee wrote. "I remain confident that he will continue to serve this nation with dedication and distinction."

Added Marine Gen. Peter Pace, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "The last three times that that general has been in combat, when he was leading Marines in Afghanistan and the two times that he led his division in Iraq, his actions and those of his troops clearly show that he understands the value of proper leadership and the value of human life."

Pace spoke Thursday during a Pentagon briefing. He declined to comment directly on Mattis' comments.

Early in his career, Mattis served as a rifle and weapons platoon commander as a lieutenant and later a captain. He also commanded assault battalions in Operation Desert Storm and Desert Shield. He was the commander of the 1st Marine Division for the initial attack on Iraq.

San Diego television station KNSD, which calls itself NBC 7/39, captured Mattis' Tuesday comments on video and interviewed a retired military man afterward who said the general's remarks were "flippant."

"I was a little surprised," said retired Vice Adm. Edward H. Martin. "I don't think any of us who have ever fought in wars liked to kill anybody."


Here's the link: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/03/general.shoot/index.html



This is the part that got to me" :D

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

I'm not sure what the point of this story is. People have made comments like this during war since time out of mind. I remember reading a book about the Battle of Midway (I think) anyway, one of the Naval Admirals "Bull Halsey" did scream "Kill Japs, Kill Japs" during the height of one of the naval battles he was involved in.


This particular comment was made by a Marine who does not have a high regard for the terrorists he is fighting against, and who can blame him?


War does tend to evoke hostility in the people who have to fight in them.

criticizing this guy is the height of stupidity. he is a marine for christs sake, killing is what they do

Yes travh, and look at who this guy is fighting against.

Of course the libs are going to be angry about General Mattis's comments, but they are generally angry at the military as it is. Only fitting they do a hit piece on this Marine.

They're military guys, not senators. It's not their job to be PC. As it was stated before, it's their job to kill people.

A couple of weeks ago, there were some pics floating around the internet showing our marines shooting an Iraqui in cold-blood, execution style. These pics show them making the guy kneel down like in that famous viet nam pic and then they cap 'em.

If rove hasn't had the pics scrubbed from the internet, I will track them down and post them.

Dop

This particular comment was made by a Marine who does not have a high regard for the terrorists he is fighting against, and who can blame him? Oh you mean the guy who the militray spent thousands and thousands of dollars to indoctrinate/brainwash him into hating his enemy and to view him as sub-human? You mean the same guy who would be saying them same thing about any number of different cultures so long as the military says its OK to murder them?

This aint no pup this is a 3 star general. How are US troops suppossed to be liberating Iraq for the Iraqis if the military teaches these racist backwoods dumbfucks to hate them? You cannot be commiting murder for and against a peoples at the same time.

I like how all the backtacking has been "he said the wrong words" and not that its wrong to get enjoyment from commiting cold-blooded murder.

Coming from the same outfit that claimed it was horrified that US troops would torture Iraqis and it must have been a few bad seeds. Its not like we teach them to view the enemy as ubermensch or anything right?

DEATH TO THE CRUDSADERS!

have you ever served in the military gorilla? or does all your knowledge come from micheal moore and old movies?

Guerilla,

Is it possible for you to come up with a coherent argument every once in a while?

There was nothing in the posts about brainwashing troops, or that James Mattis was brainwashed, nor was there anything about our troops viewing "the enemy" as sub-human. You need more work on how to construct a thesis, and your spelling is atrocious.

Now, as far a backtracking, or even being an apologisit for Gen Mattis, I won't, nor do I have to be. I'm aware of the taliban's activities toward women when they had control of Afghanistan. Mattis's comments were more than justified. That man is fighting evil, and I support him.